"Let's move from Github.com to Gitlab.com to escape Microsoft"
$ dig +short gitlab.com A
$ whois 18.104.22.168 | grep OrgName
OrgName: Microsoft Corporation
More irony, from @sn0w :
dig +short gitlab.com SOA
ns-705.awsdns-24.net. awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com. 1 7200 900 1209600 86400
@val microsoft owns the IP block but they host on AWS
@sn0w Hmm, where do you see that?
@val try a dig for SOA or leave out the +short
@sn0w Could be simply Route 53, but that's hilarious
@val I *think* it's because they're hosted on Azure, but apparently are moving off:
Still, though, that's funny. :p
@mxfraud IS google really better than MS?
@val I'm not making any judgement here. I'm saying that they are migrating away from azure.
Beyond that, if I were in their shoes (specially after what happend to them - re backup/data loss) using a cloud provider would be my favorite solution too.
Yes, but does that mean GitLab.com is as bad as GitHub.com? — At least you *can* self-host GL, but not GH.
BTW, there are other GL instances who said they can host your projects, not just the dot-com. So I just don't understand what is the point of bringing it up over and over again, that GL is hosted at MS ATM — yes, that's bad, but so what?
@amiloradovsky I don't have any issue with self-hosting on GL.
My toot was making fun of people who switch Gitlab.com (!= GitLab) to avoid centralization, because using Gitlab.com is just the same as using Github.com as long as federation between GitLab instances is not implemented.
And I'm not "bringing it up over and over again", look at the date of my toot.
Sorry, I should. I just saw this too many times recently to get pretty much pissed off by the argument…
I wouldn't say GitLab.com is the same as GitHub.com; instead, I'd say it has negligibly small advantages w.r.t. the (de)centralization.
Moreover, I'd say dot-com's are *always* problematic, see e.g. WordPress…
@amiloradovsky The dot-coms are not that bad, though.
They are a "gateway drug" to self-hosting, and fund the development of self-hostable software
Sure, even if they're sometimes hosted on Azures.
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